I think you are trying to remove views simply because you happen to disagree with them. Softlavender ( talk) 03:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC) Reply Sorry, but I'm going to put it back again. Poetry does not follow standard usage - there are infinite numbers of comma splices in English poetry, and rarely a semi-colon to be found. I have removed this because this text is poetry (and not only that, a tramslation, and one which attempts to match an ancient language). They translate Isaiah 11:4 as: His word is a rock that strikes the ruthless, his sentences bring death to the wicked. The editors of the Jerusalem Bible had no qualms about using a comma splice in poetic contexts. I removed the poetry sample, which is not applicable to standard English prose usage. Truss's observations here are pertinent and challenging, and that has a place in the article. And it's certainly worth citing respected authors such as Beckett, Forster, and Maugham who have ignored the textbooks (I'd be happier if we could find actual examples from those authors rather than quoting them second hand, but by leaving the Truss quote here, perhaps we can encourage someone to find them). In a matter such as grammar and punctuation, the views of a respected modern journalist are as relevant as those of the authors of dry textbooks written 100 years ago. Done ignorantly by ignorant people, it is awful." Softlavender ( talk) 03:08, 21 January 2008 (UTC) Reply I think you are trying to remove opinions that happen to differ from your own. Done equally knowingly by people who are not published writers, it can look weak or presumptious. "Done knowingly by an established writer, the comma splice is effective, poetic, dashing. : |access-date= requires |url= ( help)) observes: "so many highly respected writers observe the splice comma that a rather unfair rule emerges on this one: only do it if you're famous." She cites Samuel Beckett, E. Very occasionally, some popular writers are less prescriptive when it comes to well-known very literary authors, though not when it comes to standard English usage. Here's the removed paragraph, which I have tidied up considerably in case for some reason there's a consensus it should be re-inserted: I removed the paragraph, which is unnecessary, because it muddies the waters, is written quite flippantly and sillily, and is talking about literary and poetic use, not standard English usage. Truss is a popular author, not an authority on grammar. Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.106.225.127 ( talk) 13:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC) Reply You know, I have to agree with you. Can I suggest that the reference to her book be removed? There must be proper textbooks which this article can refer to. There is no way that Lynne Truss should be cited as an authority on punctuation or grammar on Wikipedia.
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